ti vs casio
Posted 13 December 2002 - 12:10 AM
Posted 13 December 2002 - 01:14 AM
Posted 13 December 2002 - 04:29 AM
The cfx-9850 was supposed to counter the TI-86. The TI-86 could calculate for 30 unknown variables in simutaneous equations. The casio could do 6. Most users around me at least never noticed things like that though, because those problems were not dealt with commonly (at least not at the high school level). However, the casio's way of dealing with Matrix functions is superior to that of TI.
On the other hand there is the obvious, that is that TI allows string variables and ASM is supported. If casio would take a hint, I think their calcs would quickly dominate the market.
Posted 13 December 2002 - 09:25 AM
I mean, I've seen Bomberman and Space Invaders games on AFX running full speed like a computer and I look at my calculator struggling to keep up a playable speed in Snake!!!
Posted 13 December 2002 - 11:22 AM
Posted 13 December 2002 - 04:09 PM
So I'd prefer casio even if someone would give a ti calto to me.
Posted 13 December 2002 - 05:13 PM
This poll on yaronet will not show same result (sorry for my english ! lol)
Posted 13 December 2002 - 05:25 PM
Good old boy.
Posted 14 December 2002 - 04:04 PM
only the AFXs are better!
Posted 14 December 2002 - 05:41 PM
If so, can you explain how? Please? Are AFX calcs like this? On my 9850, if I press a button it can take 0.1 to 2 seconds to respond, depending where in my loop it is. For huge RPG's (like Secret of Aan) these loops are long, which is why people complain it is slow!
Posted 14 December 2002 - 07:25 PM
Posted 15 December 2002 - 11:18 AM
thniks their are the best
the ti-89 has good functions
the insterface is shit
the way to launch asm programs aswell
when you need to differentiate a ft, you cannot just write diff(x^2
ity will ask the letter to diff, the way and the last )
the basic language is SHIT
the menu is good
the calc organization is goog
the x86 system is well hidden !
we can do whatever we want with assembly !
Posted 13 October 2004 - 03:50 AM
At the time, it was my first graphing calculator and I thought it was *so cool*. I eventually took to learning the calculator's programming language, which has lead these days to my major in programming.
Anyway, for a long time, I thought the Casio CFX-9850+ was so much better than the Ti-83 Plus. I remember saying "Oh yeah, those stupid Ti-83s don't even have screen colors. They suck!"
Then in 11th grade, I switched over to the Ti-83 Plus. From the very moment I opened the calculator case, I realized the differences. The Ti-83 Plus could do SO MUCH MORE than the Casio - and much faster also. Not to mention that the basic language was much closer to actual computer basic and much more powerful (ie: string manipulation, which is pretty much impossible on the Casio). I found that the programs I created for the Ti-83 Plus were much more advanced than those written on the Casio, and not because I had become a better programmer.
Rather than waste precious processor use on a shitty color screen GUI, the Ti-83 Plus utilizes processor power to produce graphs on a much higher-resolution screen. Furthermore, the mathematical functions available to use for graphs are better - much more up to the speed of actual high school math.
In short, I bought myself a Ti-83 Plus in 11th grade (and last November, a Ti-89, which is THE most powerful graphing calculator on the market) and have not gone back to Casio since. My Casio CFX-9850 Plus is gathering dust on a shelf here in my room. It doesn't look like I'll ever use it for math class again. Everything seems to be so much easier on the Ti-83 Plus or Ti-89 than on the Casio. Rather than search through endless menus on the bottom of the screen, the Ti-83/89 allows you to access functions by the "2nd" button. It features a substantially more powerful basic language and (the Ti-83) is a much more powerful calculator.
I suppose the Casio CFX-9850 Plus is the "Ti-83/Ti-83 Plus" of the Casio graphing calculator line. If that's the case, I think that Casio should try to produce some graphing calculators that actually compete with Ti-83 Pluses, Ti-89s, and the like.
Just my two cents.
Posted 13 October 2004 - 04:06 AM
Posted 13 October 2004 - 05:19 AM
the classpad is more powerfull than the Ti-89 SE and about equivelent to the Voyage 200. the classpad is really the best calc for your money right now (ive used a Voyage and like the classpad more)
the Algebra FX2.0 is about equivelent to the ti-89 or 89 (somewhere in between depending on what you want to do) and is exceptionally good for game programming (check the file sharing, you can download an emulator and try out some games).
currently the CFX series is like the little deformed puppy that everybody pities but wants nothing to do with unless they absolutely must... of course even CFX users pitty the fx-7400 users
Posted 13 October 2004 - 01:46 PM
Posted 13 October 2004 - 04:33 PM
CrimsonCasio, on Oct 13 2004, 12:19 AM, said:
What makes you say this? There is no TI89 SE but if you mean the TI89 Titanium then it uses the exact same operating system as the Voyage 200. The titanium has about the same amount of FLASH as the V200 and comes with the same programs installed. You should also note that the old TI89 (which has been out how long? 5,6,7 years?) can use the same OS the new calcs have and 14 of the 16 programs the new calcs (TI89 Ti and V200) come with are freely available.
Posted 13 October 2004 - 04:48 PM
and ive seen them compared before by a Ti user, he changed his future calc-to-buy from the Ti89 to the CP
Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:18 PM
Comparing the TI89 with a HP48 series calculator is not fair unless you have a 48GX and you use the MetaKernel, you should compare the TI89 with the HP49 series, and comparing TI89 with an AFX is not fair either you should compare it with the CP.
Posted 14 October 2004 - 07:46 PM
of the AFX. I found it quite unhandy and had difficulties to find
Posted 14 October 2004 - 08:07 PM
Posted 14 October 2004 - 09:19 PM
Posted 15 October 2004 - 11:00 AM
Sorry, i just said that because some people don't like the HP calcs because they work in RPN, and as you can see i own a HP49G and a CFX 9850, and all of my friends own a TI89 (for cheating in exams , the only thing they learned to do with the calc) or a CFX/AFX, so i can compare this calcs and in my opinion from the three brands that came up here the interface of the TIs is the one that i dislike the most, as you probably know if you use soft menus instead of choose boxes in the HPs they start to work very similar to the Casio calcs, that is, you can access the functions faster and in the TI or you recall something from history or you have to type it of browse though the menus (sometimes to functions buried under lots of sub-menus).
The things that i like the most in HPs is the RPN (i can work a lot faster) and the ability to make the calc work how i want (you don't like somethig? change a few flags and you'll get what you want), and another thing, you (and everybody else for that matter) should first see what thay want the calculator for and then say wich one is the best calc, taking into acount the add-in software available for that particular calc, beacause that, in my opinion can change the whole picture when deciding wich calculator to buy
Posted 16 October 2004 - 03:09 PM
Posted 16 October 2004 - 10:14 PM
I know what I'm saying because I had TI-92 and I have TI-89 which is almost compatible with TI-92+.
btw. AFX is almost as good as TI-89
Posted 20 October 2004 - 02:54 PM
Posted 21 October 2004 - 03:11 AM
Posted 21 October 2004 - 10:57 PM
Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:52 PM
Who Cares about HP ?! just wait until the HP programmers translate all the SATURN code to ARM code and then you'll see wich one is faster
Posted 22 October 2004 - 04:09 PM
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:25 PM
What makes you say that? The HP community has an active IRC channel just like TI, an archive site that is updated regularly just like ticalc.org, and a newsgroup that is updated many times per day. There are not a great number of forums like TI has but what more do you need for a community? I'm not saying you can't think that HPs "just plain suck donkey balls" but which calcs did you try that made you feel that?
Posted 21 November 2004 - 03:25 PM
math functions are... ok, but basic
i already overclocked it to 8mhz and upgraded to 64kb
a friend even did it with a switch, so he can still use the link function!
ti 89 would just rock, one could even play games in boring math classes
a friend had a ti-92, this was already a cool thing! ti voyage then would be awesome.
Posted 21 November 2004 - 04:45 PM
oh and the classpad 300 outdoes all of the other calcs.
it would also be nice if you signed up / logged in to disscus this as just poping along and slaging off somthing isnt the best idea
Posted 21 November 2004 - 06:43 PM
Andy.Davies: Please login to post. thanks
Posted 12 December 2004 - 11:30 PM
About other function well...each one has their advantages.But one thing... Can you customize your calculator like assigning keys, changing appearance or changing OS inclusive???
In my oponion...TIs are best for doing numerical and symbolical operations.
P.S.- Sorry about my english
Posted 13 December 2004 - 06:42 AM
quite difficult to handle. The do not have an userfriendly interface and
not much memory at all.
On the (A)FX you can code in:
so you don't have "MORE" lanuages but we have the better ones since
the AFX/FX uses a 286 compatible processor.
So porting from PC to Calc is quite easy.
And yes, we can change keys using ASM to change the keyboard interrupt and this way reprogram the keys.
And about changin the OS. Well ok this is on the ROM and therefor can not be changed but anyways we can patch into it using the interrupts
and therefor change pretty much everything (if we only knew where "everything is ).
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