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#1 hellas1

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 10:39 PM

Alright all,

Here's the scoop on the Fourier, Laplace, CP Basic's "Return" command, and another associated CP Basic bug found in the same post as the "Return" command bug as well as the "H" function (I can't remember that particular function's name.  It's on Wikipedia's Classpad site at the bottom of the page!) bugs you've all faced on Classpad's Software Version 3.03 but not on Software Version 3.02:

The info. that I forwarded about the 5 forementioned bugs will be sent to Casio Japan Research & Development, where they will investigate the bug issues I've mentioned to them further.

I mentioned that most of these bug reports came from this site with the exception of the Wikipedia bug entry (Again, it's found in Wikipedia's entry about the Classpad 300.)

They also stated they will contact me with any info. as they receive it.

Until then, hold tight folks and don't freak out!
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P.S. I'll keep you posted!

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:23 AM

Well done. :)  Hope they will release new OS free of bugs.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:02 AM

Hi all,

I re-emailed technical support and they said they need to hear back from Casio Japan.

All the bug emails I sent them were sent to Casio Japan.

See you next update!
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 12:45 PM

View Posthellas1, on Jun 18 2008, 07:39 AM, said:

Alright all,

Here's the scoop on the Fourier, Laplace, CP Basic's "Return" command, and another associated CP Basic bug found in the same post as the "Return" command bug as well as the "H" function (I can't remember that particular function's name. It's on Wikipedia's Classpad site at the bottom of the page!) bugs you've all faced on Classpad's Software Version 3.03 but not on Software Version 3.02:

The info. that I forwarded about the 5 forementioned bugs will be sent to Casio Japan Research & Development, where they will investigate the bug issues I've mentioned to them further.

I mentioned that most of these bug reports came from this site with the exception of the Wikipedia bug entry (Again, it's found in Wikipedia's entry about the Classpad 300.)

They also stated they will contact me with any info. as they receive it.

Until then, hold tight folks and don't freak out!
hellas1

P.S. I'll keep you posted!

No way man I'm freaking out already. it's taking them ages to fix 'them bugs' and for a while we'll be forced to do lots of calculations manually in fear of having calculator  giving us wrong results any time. That isn't fun, trust me.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 05:02 PM

Hi McCoy,

Would you rather have me NOT sent this to Casio's customer service/technical support?

I'm sure that many calculators have "buggy" software as well, I'm just letting everyone here know I'm doing something about it.  :rolleyes:

Sorry man, but you'll have to wait to hear from Casio.

If you'd like, you can call them or e-mail them yourself.  All info. is on their webpage. ;)
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P.S. Have a nice day!

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 02:59 AM

No no hellas, i'm not suggesting that you didn't send them the information.It's the greatest favour you have done to the cp users and i appreciate it.I'm just mad at casio guys, that they are taking damn long time to fix it. I said "no way man"' beacuse you have advised us not to freak out but I was and I'm already freaking out and i can't help it, hahaha.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding that my previous post have caused.
I owe you respect and appreciation.

peace.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:01 AM

Hey all,

New update from Casio regarding the bugs I've posted from this forum:

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"Thank you for contacting Casio America. I have received the following response regarding the issues that you mentioned.

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(InvLaplace)
------------

Regarding InvLaplace function, we are currently and
continuously doing the adjustment work.
We'd like to think of the correction in the next OS.

Please use "variable substitution" to calculate for
sure as follows.

F(s)/(a*s^2+c) (a,c are variables and a is not 1)

1. To make "the coefficient of s^2" 1, factor out the
   common factor.(Use factorout function.)

2. Substitute so that the denominator won't include
   fraction.

   Please see the attached laplace issue-(eActivity).xcp
   for a concrete example.


(Return command)
----------------

Unfortunately "Return" command doesn't work in nested
program calls.

So don't add arguments to Return in a subroutine program.
But the Return command with arguments is the specification
from ver3.03, there is no possibility that the programs
from ver3.02 or before won't work.  

Also we can use variables for this program.
(But please bear in mind that the variables in the program
applications are basically "global".
If you want to use "local variables", use "local command".
Please see the manual at page 12-2-8.)

[sample code]
  program A(arg1)
  1->a
  Return
  program B(arg2)
  2->b
  Return
  program C()
  Print a
  Print b

We'd like to think of the correction in the next OS.


(Variable)
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>It is not possible to assign the returned value from
a program to a variable.

We are sorry to say this, but it's the specification.
So please don't assign the returned value to a variable.
Also we can use variables as follows.

[sample code]
  program A(arg1)
  1->abc
  Return
  program C()
  Print abc

As this is the specification, we have no plan to change.


Heaviside function
------------------

Regarding "heaviside function", we have not perfectly dealt
with the "integral calculation by formula transaction" on
the OS 3.02 and 3.03 and we are continuously working on it.
(Of course it doesn't mean that all heaviside functions
are not dealt with by the ClassPad 330.)

So please kindly use "numerical integration" to ensure the
integral calculation of heaviside function at the moment.

Please use the following syntax.

Syntax: S(expression, variable, lower, upper, tolerance)

S means "integral sign".

For example: S(heaviside(0.9-x),x,0,1,1E-5)

Also please refer to the attached eActivity file."   End Quote

P.S.
I don't know how to upload the eActivity files though folks.
If you can help me, I'll do it.
I will also e-mail them to find out an approximate release date for Software Version 3.04

Bye, Bye
hellas1

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Posted 12 July 2008 - 08:32 PM

What ->->->->->
i dont understand this...
and that is really nice: We'd like to think of the correction in the next OS.
great, nice....

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Posted 13 July 2008 - 04:22 AM

Hi Acid111 and Everybody else,

I asked Casio via e-mail when the next OS version for the Classpad 330 would be out (Version 3.04)
in other words.

Casio Tech Support responded by stating that they have no information about that and to check the
website!


Sorry, I did the best that I could
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Posted 13 July 2008 - 01:07 PM

Thank you hellas1 for taking the action and reporting the bugs to CASIO, and letting us know the reply, I really appreciate that.
Ps: could you send the e-activity to my e-mail;
malgailanyATyahooDOTcom
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 09:22 PM

In my opinion there is another bug in Classpad OS 3.03. When hexadecimal base is specified, operations with numbers what ending with ''cd'' cause error (invalid syntax). I can calculate for example 23acd1+a12=23b6e3, but can not calculate for example 23acd+1. I'm not looking for other combinations of numerals of hexadecimal base that cause error, but when number ends with ''cd'' always invalid syntax error happens.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 06:34 PM

Hi Valdis,

If you think that's a bug, call Tech Support First.

If they don't have an answer, tell them to include it in Software Version 3.04 and have Casio Japan's Research
and Development look into it.

Later brother,
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 07:05 PM

View PostValdis, on Jul 14 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

In my opinion there is another bug in Classpad OS 3.03. When hexadecimal base is specified, operations with numbers what ending with ''cd'' cause error (invalid syntax). I can calculate for example 23acd1+a12=23b6e3, but can not calculate for example 23acd+1. I'm not looking for other combinations of numerals of hexadecimal base that cause error, but when number ends with ''cd'' always invalid syntax error happens.

Interesting question.  The way I understand it is that the CP reads a terminal 'd' as an indication that the preceding value is in decimal form.  That way you can mix your decimal and hex values.  For instance, if I wanted to add 24 (in decimal form) and 1a (in hex form), I'd write 24d+1a (while in hex mode).

Here's a possible solution... if you want to add 23acd+1, try entering it as 23acdh+1.  See if that solves the problem (that tells the calc that '23acd' is a hex value - whereas it previously thought you were telling it that '23ac' was a decimal value, which explains the error)




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