60 replies to this topic

[Overlord]

My Webpage



Presentation :
UltraHigh computing speed
Big screen
USB connection
1.5MB Flash memory

Functions (i don't mention most standard CFX functions) :
# Spreadsheet
# Differentiation and integration (present in old g80)
# List calculus (memory of 156 lists, max size 999, can be labelled)
# Programmable matrix calculus
# Financial calculus
# E-activities
# Geometry addin

Characteristics:
- SD card port
- 1.5MB flash memory + 64KB
- ...

124.99?

[huhn_m]

wow! Looks like it is similar to the FX series from the function point of view.

Maybe it is based on an x86 compatible processor. Then we could develop ADD-Ins for it (if it has really a fast processor we could advance the 3D Games !!!)

[Marco]

Is this the CFX successor they planned once? The screenshot looks a bit like on CFX 9750 (no color, same menu structure), though there's "Run-Mat" (like on AFX) instead of "Run" (like on CFX), and there's "TVM" like on CFX 9850GB+.

There was also a thread about it in this forum yet: New CFX Model? Then I thought this was just a joke (maybe it even WAS a joke that got true at random ). However the new calc really has Flash and USB as casiokaki mentioned, and seems also it's more CFX than AFX like. But why did they remove the color screen

Cool thing that they'd finally release another calc with Add In capability (or is the flash for Basic file storage only? I don't hope so)

-> How much RAM does it have (I mean not the 64KB user RAM but the total)? What OS? CPU and clock speed? MAYBE EVEN SOME OF OUR AFX ADD INS COULD RUN ON IT???

-> Comes it with an SDK as casiokaki assumed?

-> When was /will it [be] released (on official Casio homepage I didn't find it)? Why is it much more expensive than AFX series?

Btw what does "big screen" mean? More than 128x64 pixels? The screenshot doesn't look like this...

[Overlord]

don't have more info, juste translated what they said on the belgian casio site

[Orwell]

Maybe it is based on an x86 compatible processor. Then we could develop ADD-Ins for it (if it has really a fast processor we could advance the 3D Games !!!)

-> How much RAM does it have (I mean not the 64KB user RAM but the total)? What OS? CPU and clock speed? MAYBE EVEN SOME OF OUR AFX ADD INS COULD RUN ON IT???

That's what I was thinking about... Looking at the different functionalities and at the main menu, it seems like the system should be quite similar to AFX
But though we don't know if the screen and its DMAC are the same, nor if the RAM has the same structure for video memory, memzone etc... Someone should buy it and try some tests Unfortunately I don't think Casio will give us all the information we need

[octobclrnts]

Wow, I'm really impressed with Casio. I think that this calculator is what a lot of people are looking for. I think that this will definately help casio out against TI. The SD card port really opens up possibilities in the future too. I'd like to give Casio a round of applause here.

[CrimsonCasio]

*sigh* yet another calc to buy

and mabey a new place to put MLC

[dscoshpe]

As long as it remains x86 I'm happy.

- dscoshpe -

[betoe]

Seems very cool, hope i will see and much better, use one of that. But i will not buy one, i had finished school.

[casiokaki]

There is another model fx9860SD coming soon. I will dig for some screen shots if possible...

[Marco]

Screen bigger than AFX

really sure? For me, Overlord's screenshot looks pretty much like 128x64 (4x3 menu icons + menu title exactly as on AFX and seems the icon's style hasn't changed, too --> probably same resolution as on AFX).

Btw look at the screenshot in Guest's link (at the US site): there's even greyscale in the graph - menu now, meaning greyscale is supported by the built in programs this time! Cool thing

@whoever: please buy this calc, try to hack it and tell us everything !!!

PS: yeah I really hope it's 128x64, else AFX Add Ins never would be capable to run on it

[CrimsonCasio]

here are the specs:

http://www.casio.com.....chnical Specs

it is 128x64

[huhn_m]

German sites:

http://www.dynatech....t.php?prod=3862 (with cardreader)
http://www.dynatech....t.php?prod=3854 (without cardreader)

So there are sinply 2 versions. They are available from July this year and have a priving of 130 Euro without the reader and 150 Euro if you want one with SD Cards. Quite expensive if you ask me and it still has to be proven if this is worth the money. If the SD cardreader can include PC programs and the calc has an AFX like architecture maybe but else not.

[huhn_m]

I don'T think so. if it supports ASM/C Programs then they are likely to run from the built in Flash too. You have the USB link cable included in the package, as well as the software.

But remember! Nobody knows if it is a NEC v30 / x86 compatible calculator. Somebody will have to buy it before we know.

[dscoshpe]

I'll buy it when I find a distributer.

Funny (from Crimson's link): "Instruction Manual No"
Imagine all the manual requests if they sell calcs without manuals!

- dscoshpe -

[huhn_m]

you can buy it from my links. I think they have international shipping. I think andy or BiTwise already bough from them.

If you need help with german I can help you out

[casiokaki]

have some info to dispel some doubts about the new calculators spec...

The screen size: It is definitely bigger cause the AFX2.0 is about 3cmx5.9cm but this new calculator has screen of 3.3cmx6.7cm.

Memory size is 1.5mb flash only plus the 64kb.

The product come packed with new program link software, pc-emulator and usb cable and the old sb62 cable. new program link can be used to do link for older cfx model like 7400, 9850, AFX model and of course this model.

The cpu info is not available to me but the speed is definitely there. Graphing of 3 equal complexity functions is faster than graphing 1 same complexity function in AFX2.0.

Screen display is of high contrast dot matrix and is supposed to be better than AFX and 9850.

With natural display so now graphing of log function of bases other than 10 and e are possible.

system and memory management is similar to AFX calculator. We can create subfolder within the SD card or the built in calculator memory.

SD can store eactivity created, addin software and program written.

eactivity and program created in emulator can transfer to calculator and vice-cersa like the classpad manager and classpad.

upgrade spec is AFX like so we can install new application to the calc like geometry application, or ECON and DE mode of AFX.

casiokaki out.

[Deimos]

It looks quite promissing, especially the SD card and USB port, however i find one thing very dissapointing:

Computer Algebra System                  No

I guess i'll still stick with my AFX

[CrimsonCasio]

lol, for all we know its on there but not "availible"

[huhn_m]

i think they learned and CAS won't be instaleld on thos calcs.

The CFX series is intended for schools without CAS anyways so it is not supposed to have CAS.

Also be aware, that the Classpad is cheaper than this calc. (at least till now).
This is probably due to the SD slot.

[Meithal]

Casio bought the CAS module so they can use it everywhere now?

In frenche (my english is really bad):

Maintenant que Casio a achet? le calcul formel a une entreprise tierce, ils peuvent l'utiliser n'importe ou non?

[Marco]

Even if there's no CAS (also not hidden in the ROM) - if the system really is AFX compatible it's maybe possible to download the CAS Add In from the AFX ROM and run it from flash on Graph 85 then

Graphing of 3 equal complexity functions is faster than graphing 1 same complexity function in AFX2.0.

So either they improved the basic interpreter or - the CPU is three times that fast this time Wow this would be great - imagine the games

Btw. is currently anyone working on any AFX games (Add In)?

[dscoshpe]

If it doesnt come with CAS we can add the CAS from the AFX as long as it remains x86 compatible. I have learned enough about the RXE process to try and reverse it if it is really needed. It takes a good deal of work but I'd be willing to try if they change the memory configuration such that RXE programs break. Thank you dRXE!

I did some looking and found this Australian page with some more info:
http://www.casio.edu...ucts/fx9860.htm
and a brochure pdf here:
http://www.casio.edu...860Brochure.pdf

Interesting notes:
It uses 9850 style menu buttons, and AFX style message boxes.
It runs ECON2, there was an ECON 2 for AFX... The same?
The PDF lists that there will be an SDK.
The "larger and crisper display" I believe is meant to compare it against the CFX.
I think similarly for the CPU. (opinion) The calc is named 9860 (9850+10) afterall.
The screen clearly shows the E-Activity program which is also an add-in for AFX... The same?
Does not mention SD slot however it is also not the 9860SD model.

Casio.com mentions an add-in periodic table, talking about Physium?

My bet is that it is still x86.

- dscoshpe -

[The_AFX_Master]

its faster than classpad with OS 2.0??

[casiokaki]

I got to know that it uses the ClassPad chip.

casiokaki

[huhn_m]

I'm not sure if the calc is even available yet (though the resellers mention July 2005 as release date).

But I think there is an emulator that emulates the calc (to some extend) bundeled with the machine...

what is an RPN emulator though?

[huhn_m]

I'm not sure if the calc is even available yet (though the resellers mention July 2005 as release date).

But I think there is an emulator that emulates the calc (to some extend) bundeled with the machine...

what is an RPN emulator though?

[Daruosh]

Does it suport CAS?

[huhn_m]

no

[The_AFX_Master]

why RPN in casio??......the casio algebraic imput characterizes all the casio calcs....because it?s so easy, and pretty..if you think that RPN is faster than algebraic.....buy HP

[huhn_m]

what is reverse polish notation is it:

:ti si noitaton hsilop esrever si tahw