Hi there,
I will soon be purchasing a new graphing calculator with a CAS. I would like to gain some expert advice as to whether or not i should buy the Classpad or the Ti nspire.
Casio Classpad 330 V Ti-nspire Cas
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, Feb 09 2009 04:31 PM
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 04:31 PM
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 10:07 PM
I don't have TI Nspire CAS, I have Classpad 300 Plus with OS 3.03 for 2007. Classpad is useful thing. I'm a civil engineer, and I'm using my Classpad in my job often. There is pretty good programm editor in Classpad (Nspire has limited programming opportunities). I have made some programms in Classpad basic which make my calculus easier. I don't make programms in LUA, but people who do it can tell you this is potent weapon. Classpad has good graphical tools. And Classpad is very easy to use. You will not spend a lot of time in learning how.
Bad - Classpad has quite poor display contrast. But I'm accustomed with it.
Bad - Classpad has quite poor display contrast. But I'm accustomed with it.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 03:15 AM
Hi there,
I will soon be purchasing a new graphing calculator with a CAS. I would like to gain some expert advice as to whether or not i should buy the Classpad or the Ti nspire.
Forget about the Ti calculators, you can have a demo of the Nspire CAS by downloading the computer trial version to try out. The Ti-Nspire CAS's functionality is basically implemented from the Ti-89 (old technology with pretty week CAS). I recommend you to google for Ti-89 bugs and test them against the Nspire to prove my point.
Pretty disappointed about Ti calculator.
I own an HP 50g calculator and found that its CAS is stronger. Thought released in 2006, its CAS is as powerful as the upgraded Classpad 3.02 which I tried.
There are equations that HP can and classpad can't and vice versa. But HP wins overall in CAS capability due to its flexibility in manipulating functions.
HP 50g is extremely difficult to use and master, it took me weeks to learn, but its RPN is every efficient.
Classpad, targeting educational market, is very user friendly. I believe its solve function is the most powerful one (stronger than HP and any Ti). In case the solve funtions giving up, you can always plot the equation and find its zeros via graph (on any graphing calculator).
These are the 2 most powerful graphing computer handheld you can purchase. You can't go wrong either of them. Do yourself a favor, forget about the Ti-nspire CAS.
You can download the emulator for HP calculator at:
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Ti-Nspire CAS at education.ti.com
and classpad 3.02 at:
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The bottom line is, you should buy a classpad 330 or 300+ if the contrast is not an issue.
Question? PM me at ibjduy at yahoo
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 03:31 AM
Forget about the Ti calculators, you can have a demo of the Nspire CAS by downloading the computer trial version to try out. The Ti-Nspire CAS's functionality is basically implemented from the Ti-89 (old technology with pretty week CAS). I recommend you to google for Ti-89 bugs and test them against the Nspire to prove my point.
Pretty disappointed about Ti calculator.
I own an HP 50g calculator and found that its CAS is stronger. Thought released in 2006, its CAS is as powerful as the upgraded Classpad 3.02 which I tried.
There are equations that HP can and classpad can't and vice versa. But HP wins overall in CAS capability due to its flexibility in manipulating functions.
HP 50g is extremely difficult to use and master, it took me weeks to learn, but its RPN is every efficient.
Classpad, targeting educational market, is very user friendly. I believe its solve function is the most powerful one (stronger than HP and any Ti). In case the solve funtions giving up, you can always plot the equation and find its zeros via graph (on any graphing calculator).
These are the 2 most powerful graphing computer handheld you can purchase. You can't go wrong either of them. Do yourself a favor, forget about the Ti-nspire CAS.
You can download the emulator for HP calculator at:
--removed by moderator--
(need 7z to unzip)
Ti-Nspire CAS at education.ti.com
and classpad 3.02 at:
--removed by moderator--
The bottom line is, you should buy a classpad 330 or 300+ if the contrast is not an issue.
Question? PM me at ibjduy at yahoo
It's me again, by the way, if you are buying a calculator for class, please check if your instructor or your school allow classpad.
Due to its touch screen capability, it is banned in most exam. Imagine you see your student using a pen base device in the test??!!
It was the biggest disadvantage of the classpad, I think Casio did that on purpose so that students can't take advantage of the device over those with normal graphing calculators on exams.
It was the reason I bought an HP 50g. I am a math tutor, having an HP 50g plug in a power outlet on the wall (HP can run without batteries installed), people walking by are impressed though.
One last thing to mention, the HP used algorithm in calculating integral while the Ti use table-look up method. So if you encounter a difficult integral, if the TI gives up, you are out of luck and nothing much you can do. On an HP 50g, however, you can tried manipulate the problem a little bit or apply different algorithm to try out. HP also has step by step built in to show you intermediate steps while solving things like (synthesis division (complete steps), derivative (complete steps), integrate (hard-to-understand what it doing), matrix calculation (never try
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 01:38 PM
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Ti-Nspire CAS at education.ti.com
and classpad 3.02 at:
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 04:16 PM
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