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#41 Bija

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 03:46 PM

you can choose to participate in only one comp ...
or try to ask for presenting the same game in the two comps
(i think that some programers will do that and some told that we are allowed to do this)

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 04:42 PM

yea but this is clearly said in rules that all competitors must submit their project at the same time !

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 05:37 PM

in this case i think we will make an exception, but I suggest that you dont release your game to the public untill both competitions are over. also, the UCF comp lasts much longer than the other comp so you will have time to add more to your game if you so wish.

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 06:12 PM

great !!! :thumbsup:

I thank you a lot crimson !!
So everybody will wait for ucn's deadline to play public version :blah: :greengrin:

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 08:28 PM

your welcome :)
its unfortunate that both competitions are taking place at the same time. we will have to make alowences to compensate.

btw, everyone now has a text area in their profile called "awards", this will be used to log the winners of the competitions and give out awards to people that do things worthy of recognition. a list of possible awards will be issued shortly and amended as nessicary. (the previous comp winners are being awarded now)

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 08:44 PM

Well release a version for the Casio comp, continue to improve your game and present an updated version for the UCF... I think that's the best solution. We won't disqualifie you :)

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 11:12 PM

Hey C@siomax, I was still discussing with 2072, huhn_m and Roeoender like you asked. :profanity:
Anyway, we almost reached the same conclusion.

Just keep your game away from the public till we finish the UCN competition, and you shall continue developing it of course. :)

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Posted 28 July 2004 - 11:39 AM

okay moha, I was just waiting for your answer by mail but I got no sign of your good reception, so I waited, and finally thought that you had no time and then posted publically my question :)

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Posted 28 July 2004 - 05:55 PM

heh, keep me informed so I dont make random decisions... ;)

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 06:20 PM

is there really no way for getting the related project secret ??
because I won't modify it before ucn deadline, alpha version is ready, and that's sure that nothing will be changed !!

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 07:04 PM

The european competion will end very soon... And some of the games that were made for this will certainly participate again for the UCF competition, with only minor changes; so i don't know if it is a good idea to forbid the releases of the games during september... :unsure:
We will receive a classment of the best games, but we could not see how they are before the end of this second competition... i don't find it really funny :(

So does it really matter if beta versions of the progs are released before the end? Don't forget that all people who suscribed in the asm/C game category belong to the french community, so anyway everyone of them know what kind of progs they should can see in the UCF competition, so there is no disavantages :ph34r:

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 09:23 PM

This is an important question.
I would like the supervisors of the UCF Competition consider it and decide if yes or no the programs can be released before the 1st November deadline :)

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 11:00 PM

I cant decided on this... Roe/Moha/etc... will have to. :(

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 04:24 AM

C@siomax and Orwell, don't worry, we're all discussing this now, we'll post soon.

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 02:35 PM

What about it ?

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 02:44 PM

we are waiting for the opinion of the other judges... Anyway Casio didn't publish the results yet.

One of the bad things about releasing those games before the competition end is that it might discourage participants who think their game isn't worth to be finished...

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 03:38 PM

ASM/C Games:
- Bija
- casioworld
- C@siomax
- Didj
- Fantasy
- madjar
- mastermage
- superna
- X-thunder28

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I think they all know a little bit what kind of level we should see in this competition :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 05:06 PM

Yes i know that my game won't be as good as casiomax's one but I don't think that it is not worth to be finished

and I can hardly wait to see casiomax's game !! :D :D

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 03:13 AM

Well, I'm only waiting for Roe's opinion, but he's not here, so later today I will tell you the final decision.

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 09:27 AM

Yes i know that my game won't be as good as casiomax's one but I don't think that it is not worth to be finished

and I can hardly wait to see casiomax's game !!


Erf ... thanks a lot, but X-Thunder28 with his simcity was beating me I think, and what about Orwell ? :greengrin: He was right when he said that we all know the programming degree of this comp :D

This is a great one :D

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 08:46 PM

OK, here's the final decision that went between us, it only lacks Roe's opinion since he was away.
  • Competitors have already sent their gmaes to the CASIO competition.
  • The CASIO competition will announce results.
  • The competitor has two choices then:
    1- Not to release the game to the public and keep it secret till the end of our competition, this is the better choice for all.
    2- To release the game to public, he will not lose points this way or be punished by any means, but it will make the competition less competitive.
  • Whether the competitor choses any of the above choices, he's allowed to continue developing his game to any extent he needs till the competition ends.
  • If the competitor chose to publically release his game he IS NOT ALLOWED to release any further developments to the public till the end of the competition.
I think that this is fair enough, and won't upset anyone or causes him to quit our competition.

One more thing though, according to the above rules, the X-Thunder's game is accepted and will enter the competition, and what's more, he's allowed to develop it to any further extents.
Will you tell him C@siomax please, and also tell all the French guys, ok?

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 09:34 PM

That's done, I'll tell it also on french forum :)

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Posted 01 September 2004 - 11:32 AM

Hum sorry, I don't understand something:

"Whether the competitor choses any of the above choices, he's allowed to continue developing his game to any extent he needs till the competition ends."

and then: "If the competitor chose to publically release his game he IS NOT ALLOWED to release any further developments to the public till the end of the competition."

But I guess that I should consider X-Thunder's example as the correct one.

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Posted 01 September 2004 - 04:01 PM

it means you can release your game, but if you change it any then you cannot release the new version untill the UCF comp ends.

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Posted 01 September 2004 - 05:47 PM

Ok, thanx a lot for this decision :)

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 09:55 AM

Yes, sorry that I didn't inform you about my holidays before leaving -
I thought that nothing important will happen in one week, well I was wrong :rolleyes:
Anyway Moha's rules are ok to me in this unexpected 2-comps situation,
hope that all competitors won't object aswell.

I also wonder if Casio Europe won't say too much about winner's programs.

I'd like to encourage competitors to post here their thoughts about the competition, developement or programming problems they face.

Roeoender.

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 12:05 AM

ASM/C Programs:
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- huhn_m
- tekkeitserktok

Hey programs programmers ;), say something about progress of you work.

I can say that I'll finish my program in 4 weeks time (I hope). For me is very useful I use it all the time (even it doesn't have all functions). It isn't very innovative program, but it has got some new function (and old made better then it was). Unfortunately I can't manage to do some really innovative functions at the moment, but I do my best. I have some time to think it out so I'll try.

btw I'll need some testers with different rom then mine. Not now, but I want to know who will be interested in that. (I need only one person to each rom type)

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 11:55 AM

I did some major work but 10 days ago my computer died and
I have still not gotten a new processor cooler. But its on the way here.

Afterwards I'll have a 2500+ Barton and a new ASUS A7V600 board :)

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 01:15 PM

i can test your program if you want, i have a Rom 1.05

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 01:50 PM

i can test your program if you want, i have a Rom 1.05

i didnt think it went higher than 1.03 :unsure:

Afterwards I'll have a 2500+ Barton and a new ASUS A7V600 board

good choice

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 01:56 PM

@Bija:

Ok, I'll let you kwon when beta version is ready.

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 02:37 PM

ok i will wait your program :)

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 05:26 PM

Be aware that wide spread public beta tests are not allowed after the comps.
rules. You may send the program to some friends for testing but should not make
it publically available this way before the comp ends :)

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 05:34 PM

As I said I need only one person to each rom type, nobody more.

Is it ok??

My program has to be tested on different calcs. :mellow:

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Posted 12 September 2004 - 06:23 PM

i agree with you that it needs to be tested but don't make it
too public. I think we can go with one tester / ROM version but
please not more and make sure they don't publish the game.

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 09:25 AM

Two months left to the end of programs programming competition and mine is done. So, can I make now a game? I know that only one month is left for games programming contest but I want to try B) . It surely won't be the best game but I just want to participate in games category too.
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 07:28 PM

Sure you're welcome to make a game. :)
And as I've always told X-thunder, if you want to gurantee the 1st place, just make the old DOS Bumpy game. ;)

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 08:07 PM

I already have an idea, which is connected with an old dos game B)

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Posted 30 September 2004 - 01:58 PM

Hello,

I?m new here and just have a question about this contest.

I wrote a nice game for AFX series (not ready yet; hope I?ll get it until November 1st) and want to participate the contest now.
But there are only 2 cathegories C/ASM (Add In) or Casio Basic, and I wrote it in Pascal.

Can I participate with Pascal programs in the C cathegory, too (as it?s an Add In as fast as any C program could be, and the Graphics Engine written in ASM, by the way), or is there no way to participate now?

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Posted 30 September 2004 - 04:47 PM

For me it's fine! (but I'm not an admin ;) ).
Nobody use Pascal that's why it's C/ASM category. However Pascal is comparable programming language to C so it should se ok. B)




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