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#41 Brazzucko

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 10:18 AM

:blink: But for who has one AFX or FX, ( like me ), have to buy this new one, or this new calc it?s for who are in the university and want a real fast AFX ( of course for university students that don?t have one AFX ).

In my case I can't use the Classpad 300 at school....... :angry:

:D But anyway I can use it at home thanks to the emulator :)

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 07:45 PM

Well for those of us who live in the US I found out a few things that might interest you:

I've been raving about the Classpad to my dad for awhile now and so today he called Casio to ask them about it. First the people he called had no idea what the Classpad was, they had to look it up on their own web site to find out they had such a product (probably the reason it hasn't been advertised at all) after that they were able to look it up and found out that they would be getting a shipment from japan in about 2-4 weeks, so thats how long we have to wait to get them locally.

Got to love casio. :lol:

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 08:00 PM

Yeah :)

They'll probably do a larger campain at the start of or before next semester.. ;) it's end semester now, and maybe not the best time to start pushing a new calc modell

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 10:01 PM

:blink: But the new features of this calc justify they price, or justify to buy it, for who already has one AFX or FX? :unsure:

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 11:13 PM

I just like the new basic, cant wait to learn it. :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2003 - 09:30 AM

I'm not sure if you already have an afx, but for a new calc, the higher price absolutely justifies it (over the afx)

The Classpad is much faster, more reliable, the CAS is tons better, and after a while.. at least for me, when working with my afx, I wanna start touching the screen and draging expressions around :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2003 - 06:51 PM

:huh: I thing that I will keep my FX 1.0, for now I don?t need this calc?. :)

sorry for the question guys......

I?m at www.claspad.de/euro/manager/ where I have to click to download the emulator?

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 05:01 PM

I found this while looking for info on the classpad, you might want to subscribe: Casio Newsletter

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 06:26 PM

I am loading the manual now but it is taking forever on dial up. Maybe yall can answer some questions for me since I wont be able to read the manual any time soon.

Can you type with the keypad or only with the on-screen keyboard with the stylus?

How fast is the processer? Not just the number of mhz but what other machines has this been used in so we can have a comparison. Do you know how this CPU compares to other calc CPUs?

What OS? A Casio OS or is it WinCE based like the canceled HP Xpander which seems to be pretty similar.

Can individual files be stored (TI style) or must everything be in Add-ins like the AFX?

How similar is BASIC to what Casios have now? Is it still like Casios and TI-Z80s where each command acts as a character and must be accessed from a menu or can you type in the commands from the keyboard?

Does it have an onboard assembler? ::drools:: ::doesnt hold breath::

What can we use on the PC to write machine code programs for it?

Does it have a speaker?

Does it support gray scale?



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Yes. it is an SH3 micro-processer ( and maybe it is better to say micro-controller) .
a part of manual:
--//
SH7729 is a single-chip RISC microprocessor that integrates a 32-bit RISC-type SuperH RISC
engine architecture CPU with digital signal processing (DSP) extension as its core that has a cache
memory, an on-chip X/Y memory, and a memory management unit (MMU) as well as peripheral
functions required for system configuration such as a timer, a realtime clock, an interrupt
controller, and a serial communication interface. The SH7729 includes data protection, virtual
memory, and other functions provided by incorporating an MMU into a SuperH Series
microprocessor (SH-1 or SH-2). SH7729 chip has the same peripheral modules as SH7709 but
with larger cache size, on-chip DSP module, on-chip X/Y memory, and emulator support. The
provision of on-chip DSP functions enables applications that previously required the use of two
chips?a microprocessor and a DSP?to be implemented with a single chip.
High-speed data transfers with a direct memory access controller (DMAC) and an external
memory access support function enables direct connection to each memory. The SH7729
microprocessor also supports an infrared communication function, an A/D converter, and a D/A
converter.
A powerful built-in power management function keeps power consumption low, even during highspeed
operation. This LSI can run at eight times the frequency of the system-bus operating speed,
making it optimum for electrical devices such as PDA requiring both high speed and low power.
--//

Item Features
CPU ? Original Hitachi SuperH architecture
? Object code level compatible with SH-1, SH-2 and SH-3 (SH7708)
? 32-bit internal data bus
? General-register
? Sixteen 32-bit general registers (eight 32-bit shadow registers)
? Eight 32-bit control registers
? Four 32-bit system registers
? RISC-type instruction set
? Instruction length: 16-bit fixed length for improved code efficiency
? Load-store architecture
? Delayed branch instructions
? Instruction set based on C language
? Instruction execution time: one instruction/cycle for basic instructions
? Logical address space: 4 Gbytes
? Space identifier ASID: 8 bits, 256 logical address space
? Five-stage pipeline
DSP ? Mixture of 16-bit and 32-bit instructions
? 32-/40-bit internal data paths
? Multiplier, ALU, barrel shifter and DSP register
? 16 bits x 16 bits ? 32-bit one cycle multiplier
? Large DSP data register
? Six 32-bit data registers
? Two 40-bit data registers
? Extended Harvard Architecture for DSP data bus
? Two data buses
? One instruction bus
? Max. four parallel operations: ALU, multiply and two load or store
? Two addressing units to generate addresses for two memory access
? DSP data addressing modes: increment, indexing (with or without modulo
addressing)
? Zero overhead repeat loop control
? Conditional execution instructions
? User-DSP mode and privileged-DSP mode

Clock pulse
generator (CPG)
? Clock mode: An input clock can be selected from the external input (EXTAL
or CKIO) or crystal oscillator.
? Three types of clocks generated:
? CPU clock: 1?16 times the input clock, maximum 133 MHz
? Bus clock: 1?4 times the input clock, maximum 66 MHz
? Peripheral clock: 1/4?4 times the input clock, maximum 33 MHz
? Power-down modes:
? Sleep mode
? Standby mode
? Module standby mode
? One-channel watchdog timer
Memory
management
unit (MMU)
? 4 Gbytes of address space, 256 address spaces (ASID 8 bits)
? Page unit sharing
? Supports multiple page sizes: 1 kbyte or 4 Kbytes
? 128-entry, 4-way set associative TLB
? Supports software selection of replacement method and random-replacement
algorithms
? Contents of TLB are directly accessible by address mapping
Cache memory ? 16-kbyte cache, mixed instruction/data
? 256 entries, 4-way set associative, 16-byte block length
? Write-back, write-through, LRU replacement algorithm
? 1-stage write-back buffer
? Maximum 2 ways of the cache can be locked
X/Y memory ? User-selectable mapping mechanism
? Fixed mapping for mission-critical realtime applications
? Automatic mapping through TLB for easy to use
? 3 independent read/write ports
? 8-/16-/32-bit access from the CPU
? Maximum two 16-bit accesses from the DSP
? 8-/16-/32-bit access from the DMAC
? 8-KB RAM for X and Y memory each
Interrupt
controller (INTC)
? Eleven external interrupt pins (NMI, IRQ5?IRQ0, IRLS3?IRLS0)
? On-chip peripheral interrupts: set priority levels for each module
User break
controller (UBC)
? 2 break channels
? Addresses, data values, type of access, and data size can all be set as break
conditions
? Supports a sequential break function
Bus state
controller (BSC)
? Physical address space divided into six areas (area 0, areas 2 to 6), each a
maximum 64 Mbytes, with the following features settable for each area:
? Bus size (8, 16, or 32 bits)
? Number of wait cycles (also supports a hardware wait function)
? Specifying the memory to be connected to each area enables direct
connection to SRAM, DRAM, synchronous DRAM, and burst ROM
? Supports PCMCIA interface (2 channels)
? Outputs chip select signal (CS0, CS2?CS6) for corresponding area
? DRAM/synchronous DRAM refresh function
? Programmable refresh interval
? Supports CAS-before-RAS refresh and self-refresh modes
? Supports power-down DRAM
? DRAM/synchronous DRAM burst access function
? Setting possible big or little endian
User-debugging
Interface (H-UDI)
? E10A emulator support
? JTAG-standard pin assignment
? Realtime branch trace
? 1-KB on-chip RAM for fast emulation program execution
Timer (TMU) ? 3-channel auto-reload-type 32-bit timer
? Input capture function
? 6 types of counter input clocks can be selected
? Maximum resolution: 2 MHz
Realtime clock
(RTC)
? Built-in clock, calendar functions, and alarm functions
? On-chip 32-kHz crystal oscillator circuit with a maximum resolution (cycle
interrupt) of 1/256 second
Serial communication
interface 0
(SCI0)
? Asynchronous mode or clock synchronous mode can be selected
? Full-duplex communication
? Supports smart card interface
Serial communication
interface 1
(SCI1)
? 16-byte FIFO for transmission/reception
? DMA can be transferred
? IrDA: interface based on 1.0
Serial communication
interface 2
(SCI2)
? 16-byte FIFO for transmission/reception
? DMA can be transferred
? Hardware flow control
Direct memory
access controller
(DMAC)
? 4 channels
? Burst mode and cycle-steal mode
I/O port ? Twelve 8-bit port
A/D converter
(ADC)
? 10 bits ? 4 LSB, 8 channels
? Conversion time: 10 ms
? Input range: 0?Vcc (max. 3.6 V)
D/A converter
(DAC)
? 8 bits ? 4 LSB, 2 channels
? Conversion time: 10 ms
? Output range: 0?Vcc (max. 3.6 V)
Product lineup Power Supply Voltage Operating Model
Abb. I/O Internal Frequency Name Package
SH7729 3.3 ?0.3 V 1.9 ?0.15 V 133 MHz HD6417729
F133
208-pin plastic
LQFP (FP-208C)
HD6417729
BT133
216-pin CSP
(CSP-216)
1.8 ?0.15 V 100 MHz HD6417729
F100
208-pin plastic
LQFP (FP-208C)
HD6417729
BT100
216-pin CSP
(CSP-216)

Power supply voltage ? I/O: 3.3 ? 0.3 V, Internal: 1.9 ? 0.15 V (133 MHz models),
1.8 ? 0.15 V (100 MHz models)
Operating frequency ? Internal frequency: maximum 133 MHz (133 MHz models),
100 MHz (100 MHz models)
? External frequency: maximum 66 MHz
Process ? 0.25-mm CMOS/3-layer metal

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i just copy and past that from it's manual.
but it is a really prowerfull processer! i really can not understand why casio use this so so so so so so S.O.S S.O.S S.O.S :D :banghead: powerfull processor in a calculator!
TI just use a motorola 68000 processor! it is so old and very normal!
and a very very interesting thing about this calculator is about it's internal DSP (Digital Signal Processor)!
do you know why????!!!!
because casio built this calculator for schools! and i don't know witch student plan to use that :rant: !
there was some other models of SH3 processors witch does not have any DSP.
i think DSP is just usefull for BSD students and maybe university student( like me! B) )
that is really funny that casio just use this processor like very normal ones. (that is enough!) :banghead: .

YES it has a small buzzer not a complete sound system. but i think that is enough to make some alarm.

i think someone should ask casio about the reasons that they made this calculator.

it is good to know there is a <{GNULINUX}> (Operationg System) for SH3 familly!
there is some bios for this familly too (it is like an OS but they called it Bios!)
witch casio use that to make its OS(CP OS).

unfortunatly i have not enough time to write more about calculator . i can just say it is really amazing thing in out hands! ( I bought CP to control my robots! not just as a very normal and expensive calculator!)
so please try to make it better and use it's powerfull processor not just as a gamepad! ;) ^_^

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Posted 14 July 2006 - 10:20 AM

Well the ClassPad doesn't have a SH7729 microcontroller - it is a SH7291. And unfortunately, this model isn't documented on Renesas's website :(
But the information about the SH7709 may be used for programming (e.g. for timer manipulation), however I don't think the CP has got all its functionalities (I don't see the interest of having an ADC or a DAC for example :lol: )

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:43 PM

is there anyway to change the screen ??? the contrast is very poor but I heard they make it ok in class pad 300+
if it's true!!! is there anyway to change the screen with the good one
I can not read any word on my classpad in the room or class!!!




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