Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

Classpad Suggestions


  • Please log in to reply
341 replies to this topic

#241 PAP

PAP

    Casio Overlord

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 681 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere in Europe.
  • Interests:Computer Algebra, Numerical Analysis.

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 (plus an old Casio model, with only a few Kb ram).

Posted 11 November 2005 - 02:12 PM

Oooh! you forgot "Dear friends" and "See you soon! Bye!" in your message!

Indeed :plol:.

#242 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 18 November 2005 - 06:16 PM

CASIO hear any bit of our 10 TONS of suggestions???....

I read them, and I know people at Casio that read them as well. ;)

#243 TacoFred

TacoFred

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 145 posts
  • Location:NJ
  • Interests:I LOVE STARCRAFT BROODWAR<br />MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Calculators:
    cfx 9850gb+, fx 115MS, ClassPad 300, TI-89 Titanium

Posted 18 November 2005 - 08:20 PM

Well, reading won't do anything if they don't implement our suggestions into OS updates.......

#244 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 19 November 2005 - 08:29 AM

Yes... and the "automatic Ans", is not implemented yet... although we wait for it for a so long time... :(

#245 -Tom-

-Tom-

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 104 posts
  • Location:Poland
  • Interests:Tides, Celestial Navigation, Deadreckoning

  • Calculators:
    Cla$$pad 300

Posted 19 November 2005 - 02:26 PM

I read them, and I know people at Casio that read them as well. ;)


So when we should expect new OS release???

#246 -Tom-

-Tom-

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 104 posts
  • Location:Poland
  • Interests:Tides, Celestial Navigation, Deadreckoning

  • Calculators:
    Cla$$pad 300

Posted 19 November 2005 - 08:24 PM

Does anybody knows if it is possible to establish direct conection PC-->Classpad ?
Are there any Libraries for C or Delphi to do such a thing?

#247 TacoFred

TacoFred

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 145 posts
  • Location:NJ
  • Interests:I LOVE STARCRAFT BROODWAR<br />MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Calculators:
    cfx 9850gb+, fx 115MS, ClassPad 300, TI-89 Titanium

Posted 21 November 2005 - 01:58 AM

I think Orwell wrote his own USB direct PC <---> CP functions for his BattleShip game.

#248 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 21 November 2005 - 02:31 AM

Yes... and the "automatic Ans", is not implemented yet... although we wait for it for a so long time... :(

I have no idea when the next major OS will be released. Even if I did know, I wouldn't REALLY know. ;)

#249 MicroPro

MicroPro

    Casio Overlord

  • Deputy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 20 December 2005 - 02:11 PM

I think there MUST be a way to tell CASIO what do we want. Just someone finds it, please.

#250 Orwell

Orwell

    Casio Overlord

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 777 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris - France

  • Calculators:
    Casio AFX 1.02 / Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 20 December 2005 - 03:49 PM

Anybody here speaking japanese?

#251 TacoFred

TacoFred

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 145 posts
  • Location:NJ
  • Interests:I LOVE STARCRAFT BROODWAR<br />MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Calculators:
    cfx 9850gb+, fx 115MS, ClassPad 300, TI-89 Titanium

Posted 20 December 2005 - 09:46 PM

I'm Korean.... :lmao:

#252 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 23 December 2005 - 01:26 PM

I'm Korean.... :lmao:


I'm Vietnamiese
No japanese people here? :lol:

#253 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 23 December 2005 - 06:45 PM

I think there MUST be a way to tell CASIO what do we want. Just someone finds it, please.

Trust me, you are telling Casio what you want right here. BTW, I think everyone who has requested the auto ANS feature will be VERY happy when they the next major OS.

#254 Lovecasio

Lovecasio

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 242 posts
  • Location:Hochiminh city Vietnam
  • Interests:Organic chemistry.<br />Pharmacy

  • Calculators:
    fx 570 MS, Casio AFX 2.0+, ClassPad 300

Posted 24 December 2005 - 01:25 AM

I think everyone who has requested the auto ANS feature will be VERY happy when they the next major OS.


So you mean that this feature has been added to the next version? :)
Well, I have a suggestion: You enter a function into y1(x) and then draw it. After that if you enter another function y2(x) and tap "Draw" button again, the graph of y1(x) is also drawn again. It takes more time. It would be better if ClassPad just draw new function and keep the old one. By the way, if someone have been using ClassPad from version 1.0, you may notice that it takes more time to solve trigonometric equations right now than version 1.0, and I think it should be improved.

Merry Christmas

To Kilburn:
On glisse sur la neige
Tir? par un cheval... :) Ch?c gi?ng sinh vui vẻ

#255 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 25 December 2005 - 10:01 AM

C?m ơn anh rất nhi?u :D

#256 TacoFred

TacoFred

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 145 posts
  • Location:NJ
  • Interests:I LOVE STARCRAFT BROODWAR<br />MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Calculators:
    cfx 9850gb+, fx 115MS, ClassPad 300, TI-89 Titanium

Posted 26 December 2005 - 03:02 PM

Hm....if the auto ans feature is finally being implemented can we expect some kind of hardware change that might possibly include a shift key?

#257 Guest_Guest_*

Guest_Guest_*
  • Guests

Posted 27 December 2005 - 07:57 AM

Trust me, you are telling Casio what you want right here. BTW, I think everyone who has requested the auto ANS feature will be VERY happy when they the next major OS.



Softcal, you must have known something cause I was at Korea last week and saw the version 3 OS...1 word, awesome. i am happy to meet this fukaya guy, someone told me he was the leader in the team that make the firt graphci calculator..really?? anyway the version 3 is fanyastic, it has got fourier, lapalce, better statistic interface, tvm, and many cas bugs are fixed!! I like the fact now the manager can be open up like a windows appliaction, but no mac version yet!!!

#258 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 27 December 2005 - 09:27 AM

Softcal, you must have known something cause I was at Korea last week and saw the version 3 OS...1 word, awesome. i am happy to meet this fukaya guy, someone told me he was the leader in the team that make the firt graphci calculator..really?? anyway the version 3 is fanyastic, it has got fourier, lapalce, better statistic interface, tvm, and many cas bugs are fixed!! I like the fact now the manager can be open up like a windows appliaction, but no mac version yet!!!


Really??? :beer: :rockband: :rock: :clap: This is wonderful!!! :roflol:

But... why do you see the OS v3 before us? Is there any link?

#259 Guest_samuel_*

Guest_samuel_*
  • Guests

Posted 27 December 2005 - 11:58 AM

Really??? :beer: :rockband: :rock: :clap: This is wonderful!!! :roflol:

But... why do you see the OS v3 before us? Is there any link?



I went to this conference in korea and this fukaya present the version 3 and I went to see his presentation. There he show us the fourier and laplace, also I notice the tvm when he open up the menu. I found a link to his abstract at here http://security.iwar...4/abstract.html

sorry I forgot to post my name just now.

#260 Orwell

Orwell

    Casio Overlord

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 777 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris - France

  • Calculators:
    Casio AFX 1.02 / Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 27 December 2005 - 01:03 PM

I found a link to his abstract at here http://security.iwar...4/abstract.html

Hmm it seems that those changes concern more the manager than the OS... :huh:

#261 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 27 December 2005 - 03:04 PM

:nonono: Let's hope this doesn't...

#262 betoe

betoe

    UCF Spanish Translator

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 846 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Guadalajara/Mazatlan, Mexico.
  • Interests:Electronics, SW development, automotive. Swim->bike->run

  • Calculators:
    Algebra FX2.0 (R.I.P.), Classpad 300

Posted 28 December 2005 - 04:11 AM

I think Samuel is a professor that works near casio, like abel_martin (from www.classpad.tk), that have been in that kind of conferences. Maybe i can ask (he has a forum on his site) him about this. Abel have in his site a photo with this guy, fukaya.

#263 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 28 December 2005 - 08:51 PM

Softcal, you must have known something cause I was at Korea last week and saw the version 3 OS...1 word, awesome. i am happy to meet this fukaya guy, someone told me he was the leader in the team that make the first graphic calculator..really?? anyway the version 3 is fantastic, it has got Fourier, Laplace, better statistic interface, tvm, and many cas bugs are fixed!! I like the fact now the manager can be open up like a windows application, but no mac version yet!!!

So the cat is out of the bag :). I work with Casio so I cannot disclose anything confidential. Now that Fukaya has shown some of the new feature in OS 3.0, I can (at least limited to what he has shown in Korea last week).

The Manager has a re-sizable window. You can also copy and paste between Windows and the Manager and it translates between the ClassPad characters and Unicode. You can even copy an individual 2D math expression and paste it as a graphic.

As Samuel has mentioned, the ClassPad will have a better CAS with more functions, including financial functions like TVM. And for everyone who is wondering, yes this is for both the ClassPad and the Manager.

#264 PAP

PAP

    Casio Overlord

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 681 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere in Europe.
  • Interests:Computer Algebra, Numerical Analysis.

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 (plus an old Casio model, with only a few Kb ram).

Posted 29 December 2005 - 12:19 AM

As Samuel has mentioned, the ClassPad will have a better CAS with more functions, including financial functions like TVM.

Let's just hope that this time we will see a real CAS improvement. My list of CAS problems that cannot be solved by the current CAS is large already...
Btw, support for TVM (and financial functions in general) should not be considered as serious "CAS improvement", at least in my opinion. These things are usually included in spreadsheets like Excel, and, for god's sake, Excel cannot be compared with a CAS. Mathematica, for example, has a very strong CAS (maybe the most powerful today), but does not support financial functions, and it does well: a CAS is designed for real mathematics. ;)

Merry Christmas to all ClassPad forumers.

#265 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 29 December 2005 - 03:56 AM

Btw, support for TVM (and financial functions in general) should not be considered as serious "CAS improvement", at least in my opinion.

Thanks for the correction. These are not CAS functions. They are numeric functions. You can use many of them in expressions, but they are by no means CAS functions.

#266 Guest_samuel_*

Guest_samuel_*
  • Guests

Posted 29 December 2005 - 05:45 AM

Oh I see, so Solfcalc can't tell more until I do?? :)

In case anyone thinking why announce in Korea it is because casio is a big sponsor of this conference. this is obvious because they get the best place for the exhibition while texas and mathematica are smack upstair in a more incovenience place.
btw, fukaya also show us the parametric 3d graphing where now we can do 3d graphs defined parametriclly. So I saw the following imrpovement and enhancement over there.

3d parametric graphing, tvm, improved advanced statistic interface (btw the os 2.2 stats is really lousy!), some cas bugs fixes, laplace and fourier add in, the manager opens up in full window. BUT, still no mac version!!!!!!!! :o

#267 PAP

PAP

    Casio Overlord

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 681 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere in Europe.
  • Interests:Computer Algebra, Numerical Analysis.

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 (plus an old Casio model, with only a few Kb ram).

Posted 29 December 2005 - 12:52 PM

3d parametric graphing, tvm, improved advanced statistic interface (btw the os 2.2 stats is really lousy!), some cas bugs fixes, laplace and fourier add in, the manager opens up in full window. BUT, still no mac version!!!!!!!! :o

3D parametric graphing, Fourrier and Laplace transforms are really welcome. However, I'm curious about the "improved statistics interface" you mentioned. Does it means that statistical computations are done via functions? I hope so, since in all OSes so far statistical computations are done via commands, and the results are simply printed on the screen. If you need them for further computations, you have to access system variables (it works, but it's really annoying).
I'm also really curious about "CAS bugs fixes". Can you name some? Currently, symbolic integration has several bugs (simple integrals are left unevaluated, or CP spends too much time to evaluate them, limit computations are too poor, solving systems of equations has annoying constraints, etc, etc, etc...)
Everybody knows that CP Basic has serious limitations (a function is limited to only one statement, no real subroutines are implemented, string functions are implemented via commands, not to mention that CP Basic is very slow, compared to CPLua). You didn't mentioned anything about CP Basic and I'm afraid that there is no CP Basic improvement in the new OS. I hope I'm wrong, but, if I have to bet for it, I bet that CP Basic is left unchanged :(.

#268 Guest_samuel_*

Guest_samuel_*
  • Guests

Posted 29 December 2005 - 05:41 PM

The statistic functions in v 3 are now access by just tapping in to the stat mode rather than using command as with the case now. Those functions appears when you tap on the pull down menu, so in a way you are right that they are now being done via function and definitely faster.

As for the CAS bugs fix, this was what fukaya claimed and he just mentioned them in the talk and I have no interest in Cas actually so I did not listen but I think I heard him saying things about symbolic integration...Softcalc??

Programming? I do not think I have heard anything about it at fukaya talk. So i don't know. ...softcalc??

Overall I can say that v 3 is definitely a very major upgrade (I do have a cp300 with v2.2 and the manager 2.0) when we compare it to v2.2. One thng I am curios about fukaya is that he talked a lot about the laplace and fourier add-in. no doubt it is very powerful cause my favorite in university is also on functional transformation. He did not talk much about tvm, and the new cas fixes. although this diane, his assistance spoke of the improved statistic at her talk.

BTW, they have mentioned about releasing versin 3 manager within the next 3-6 months. BUT, as far as I know, it is not a free upgrade for current cp owner. :(

#269 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 30 December 2005 - 08:21 AM

BTW, they have mentioned about releasing versin 3 manager within the next 3-6 months. BUT, as far as I know, it is not a free upgrade for current cp owner. :(


The upgrade for the Manager might not be free (but I am not sure of this). As you've noticed, the new Manager is very different from 2.2. It is more than just an emulator now.

For all you worriers, there is no reason to get all worried when nothing has been announced. I have always assumed that this would be a free upgrade. Until I hear differently I suggest everyone else do the same.

#270 MicroPro

MicroPro

    Casio Overlord

  • Deputy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 30 December 2005 - 01:53 PM

1. Hi!
2. Why don't you register, samuel? :)
3. If it has released, why I can't find it on classpad.net? Isn't it the first place that contains OS updates?
4. Thanks!

#271 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 30 December 2005 - 02:23 PM

1. Hi!
2. Why don't you register, samuel? :)
3. If it has released, why I can't find it on classpad.net? Isn't it the first place that contains OS updates?
4. Thanks!


1. Hi!
2. It has been not released YET ;)
3. I hope everybody is happy!
4. Merry Christmas and I hope everybody got many gifts!!! :lol:
5. Great great thank to Casio :bow:
6. I think that's all ... :)

#272 Guest_samuel_*

Guest_samuel_*
  • Guests

Posted 31 December 2005 - 04:57 AM

1. Hi Too!
2. It has been not released YET and I concur :) Wait for 3 months or so.
3. I hope everybody is happy caused it is REALLY a very major upgrade :o
4. I am not registering cause I'm a school teacher and would not post a lot. <_<
5. Great thanks to Casio for the New OS. :rockband:
6. Although it may not be free but I'll buy if the price is right. :)
7. The OS 3 does warrant a New Thread especially the OS 3 manager, it is beyond an emulator! :o
8. Thanks to CasioCalc.org. Happy New Year :)

This OS 3 is still suppose to be a secret!!! :secret:

samuel

#273 SoftCalc

SoftCalc

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 406 posts
  • Location:Portland, OR USA

  • Calculators:
    ClassPad 300 , AFX 2.0, HP-48/49/50, TI-89/92/Voyager, HP Expander, etc...

Posted 31 December 2005 - 09:19 AM

Although it may not be free but I'll buy if the price is right. :)

As far as OS 3 for the ClassPad, there is no reason to get all worried when nothing has been announced. I have always assumed that this would be a free upgrade. Until I hear differently I suggest everyone else do the same.

As far as the ClassPad Manager, this PC software so anything is possible.

#274 Lovecasio

Lovecasio

    Casio Freak

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 242 posts
  • Location:Hochiminh city Vietnam
  • Interests:Organic chemistry.<br />Pharmacy

  • Calculators:
    fx 570 MS, Casio AFX 2.0+, ClassPad 300

Posted 31 December 2005 - 10:56 AM

Hi.
I think it should be free since Casio says "You can download free of charge but you are required to sign up as a user before download", and I see there is no reason that the OS isn't free for ClassPad user.

Happy new year :beer: . Best wishes for you and your family. :)

#275 MicroPro

MicroPro

    Casio Overlord

  • Deputy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 31 December 2005 - 07:32 PM

1. Hi Too!
2. It has been not released YET and I concur :) Wait for 3 months or so.
3. I hope everybody is happy caused it is REALLY a very major upgrade :o
4. I am not registering cause I'm a school teacher and would not post a lot. <_<
5. Great thanks to Casio for the New OS. :rockband:
6. Although it may not be free but I'll buy if the price is right. :)
7. The OS 3 does warrant a New Thread especially the OS 3 manager, it is beyond an emulator! :o
8. Thanks to CasioCalc.org. Happy New Year :)

This OS 3 is still suppose to be a secret!!! :secret:

samuel

cos(0). Hi again!
2sin(90). So I must call you professor samuel.
log(1000). My internet connection speed is very low. Do you think I can download it?
Pi+0.86. Thanks and bye!

( :plol: )

#276 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 31 December 2005 - 08:26 PM

-i?.Hi again
|sqrt(2)+sqrt(2)*i|.I think you could download it without problem, an OS update is not so huge... :huh:
im(2+log(1000)*i).I really hope OS update will be free
sqrt(16)*e/lim((1+1/n)^n) n->infinity.In about 2 hours and 45 minutes... Happy New Year!!!
(phi*2-1)?.Good bye! (phi=golden ratio)

( :plol: :roflol: :greengrin: :lol2: )

#277 MicroPro

MicroPro

    Casio Overlord

  • Deputy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 01 January 2006 - 12:07 PM

I think you could download it without problem, an OS update is not so huge... :huh:
I really hope OS update will be free
In about 2 hours and 45 minutes... Happy New Year!!!

OK, thanks. I hope it will be free, too. :)

#278 unique33

unique33

    Casio Freak

  • Possibly hacked
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 229 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    classpad 300 , fx5500

Posted 01 January 2006 - 10:25 PM

our new year comes 3 month later . maybe it will be a gift then ! :P

Happy Christmas to all forumers .

#279 MicroPro

MicroPro

    Casio Overlord

  • Deputy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Iran

  • Calculators:
    Casio ClassPad 300

Posted 20 January 2006 - 11:56 AM

I think the most urgent thing they must change is the Program application. I hope in ver3 we can use commands such as "GetAxes" (the opposite of "SetAxes").
Also I hope they increase the speed of running programs.

#280 Kilburn

Kilburn

    Casio Technician

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 491 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France
  • Interests:Blah

  • Calculators:
    FX-7500 G
    ClassPad 300

Posted 28 January 2006 - 09:30 AM

For OS v.3.x or 4.0 :plol: ... would it be posible to implement cylindric or spherical 3D Graph? And why not parametric (x(t), y(t), z(t)) or 4D graph (z(x,y,t))? :lol2:
And why when you start eActivity, you should wait about 15 seconds???? :banghead: So I never use eActivity because I must waiiiiiiiit a long time when I load a eActivity.....




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users